Why can you do it?
To respond to a recently asked question as to why Firovac vacuum fire apparatus can do some things that others cannot, the answer follows:
1. Firovac's vacuum system CAN transfer water through LDH because it is designed specifically for fire service. It is not desisgned like an industrial unit.
2. Firovac's vacuum system CAN pump and roll with the fire pump OR vacuum system because it is designed specifically for fire service. It is not designed like an industrial unit.
3. Firovac's vacuum system CAN go from vacuum to pressure without having to vent the tank because it is designed specifically for fire service. It is not designed like an industrial unit.
4. Firovac's vacuum system CAN do much more because it is designed specifically for fire service. It is not designed like an industrial unit.
2014 Polar Vortex
Earl Everhart - VTEC
During the recent Polar Vortex (Winter 2014), Plainfield, Massachusetts Firovac unit was the only apparatus that did not freeze up at the fire they were fighting.
"Water Moving Machine"
Chief Linette M. Hutchison - Harlan Fire Department
"I originally saw a Firovac demonstrated at the State Fire School in Lexington, Kentucky several years ago, then again at FDIC in Indianapolis, Indiana. I watched the ease of loading and unloading water. After watching another demonstration here, in Harlan, of water being obtained 40' down a steep embankment and at a river, I was sold. We took delivery of a 2000 Gallon Firovac unit in September of 2006. We have never regretted the decision; it is truly a water moving machine."
-Chief Linette M. Hutchison
Fitting in to the Present System
Fitting in to a present system may make you sit in line with all other tankers giving personnel time to stand and watch the loading process.
About a half mile from this hydrandt there was a large static water source. The vacuum units could have loaded through their 6" ports instead of the 2.5" or 3" from the hydrant. Anyone can understand loading through 6" hose provides a much better flow rate than a 2.5" or 3".
Furthermore, a hydrant system can be enhanced by running an extra line to a portable tank. Firovac can then load from that portable tank at 1400 to 1500 GPM.
Firovac is specifically designed to fit in to any present water movement system as shown in supplying water to this furniture factory fire. However, the water delivery rate would be no better than that system.
Delivering BIG WATER
Three members from Colerain, Ohio went to Morrisvale, West Virginia on October 23, 2011 to see a water shuttle conducted by Mark Davis of Got Big Water. Following are quotes from Charles D. Clark's observations. Got Big Water's water shuttle classes are conducted according to ISO requirements.
"Morrisvale FD had the dump site completely set up and flowing water within the I.S.O. recommended 5 minutes - with minimal man power (4 people - 2 on pumper and 2 on tanker)! All this efficiency allowed them to achieve a rare accomplishment - they did not tie up a nurse tanker to buy time for the dump site to be set up. What does this make possible? That first tanker on the scene dumps its water and is quickly on the way to get refilled and return in time to meet your water supply needs at what could be called that golden 15-20 minute mark. This is the critical block of time before mutual aid water arrives on the scene.
Prompt return of first tanker to dump site is critical. During a real fire situation when manpower is low and mutual aid is slow the 15-20 min. point is when you could expect to run low on water - especially if you are pumping more than the minimum of 250 gpm on the fire. Morrisvale's first tanker was refilled and waiting to move in to dump for the second time before the first mutual aid tanker was finished dumping its first load of water (at approximately the 17.5 min. mark of the drill). That is exceptional! during most drills it is nearly 30 minutes before the first tanker to dump returns from the fill site.
I've estimated the following times for this first vacuum tanker:
1. set up dump tank:..............1.5 min
2. dumper 2,000 gal. water:..1 min
3. drove to the fill site:...........4 min
4. set up the fill site:.............. 5 min (as allowed by ISO)
5. refilled with water.............. 2 min
6 drove back to dump site..... 4 min
Accessing water near the fire scene and refilling quickly with low manpower - these are some of the major advantages of vacuum tankers. There were 5 vacuum tankers and four suction tubes available. They could fill at the same fill site at the same time @ over 2,000 GPM.
No waiting to dump and no waiting to fill - that's the key to moving big water! A tanker sitting still is not moving water! Think of pit stops in NASCAR: There are two pit stops per lap during tanker shuttles! The race can be won or lost in the pits.
Self filling vacuum tankers can free up pumpers. We only have two pumpers (1,250 GPM & 1,000 GPM). We have several long lanes in our rural community which require laying LDH back the lane. One of our pumpers is needed to relay pump back the lane from out on the road. When we relay pump back a lane we have no pumper available to fill tankers (remember the delay involved in waiting for mutual aid pumpers to fill tankers). During our 2001 I.S.O. certification test we only got credit for one pumper for fire scene pumping capacity. The other pumper didn't count because it was not attacking fire - it was filling tankers! If we don't need pumpers to fill vacuum tankers we can park that pumper at the I.S.O. mock fire site and get credit for its pumping capacity or during an actual fire that pumper can be on hand at the scene as a back up to the attack pumper. Besides getting 100% I.S.O credit for water tank capacity, vacuum tankers can also help you get maximum credit for all of your pumpers.
I've been doing a lot of figuring since having this eye opening experience in West Virginia. 5 tanker drivers + 2 dump site people + 1,000+ GPM or 143 GPM per person
During our most recent tanker shuttle drill we determined that it would take 23 people; 9-10 of our current tankers; and 4-5 pumpers to deliver 1,000 GPM...................That's 43 GPM per person.
Vacuum vs. Conventional Tankers:
6 trucks vs. 15 trucks to move 1,000 GPM
7 people vs 23 people to move 1,000 GPM
Besides being a fire fighter I'm also the Township Fiscal Officer. I'm constantly calculating what we can afford: I can't help but wonder how much fuel would be saved over the course of a long fire incident if you were running 6 vs. 15 trucks. during these tough economic times governments are asked to do more with less. Vacuum tankers are the perfect example of getting more bang for your buck."
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Can't Leap Tall Buildings
Chief Mike Sullivan - Tolland VFD, Massachusetts
SMOKE Showin' Magazine
It can't leap tall buildings in a single bound, but Tolland's new Supertanker is the future of tankers.
Chief Sullivan invited all of Tolland's Local Mutual Aid Departments to send representatives....with the goal of focusing on local cooperation, discuss common issues such as training, firefighter certification and regional grant possibilities. Tolland took this opportunity to introduce the attendees to the new "Vacuum Tanker". Tankers from Cummington, Massachusetts and Drakeville, Connecticut similar to Tolland's new tanker gave demonstrations of their capabilities. A vacuum tanker can transform fire ground operations. For fire scenes with easy access to water, no longer will we be limited by the water in the pumpers and a folding tank.
The most challenging scenario for a volunteer fire department is a mid-day, mid-week call-out when only a few volunteers are available. Having to take firefighters and a major piece of firefighting apparatus away from the fire scene to conduct a refilling operation severely limits the department's ability to successfully battle a fire.
Excerpts from Winter 2012 Issue of SMOKE Showin'. Read more there.
If you would like to learn more, contact Chief Mike Sullivan at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Kenneth Crump - Fleet Maintenance
Matanuska Sustina Borough, Alaska
"Awsome truck. I appreciate that I can get to things to do maintenance on our Firovac unit. It is much easier to work on than other units we have."
Jason Estep - Excerpts from article written from experience
Morrisvale VFD, West Virginia
Understanding Fire Service Vacuum Apparatus and Comparisons to Conventional Apparatus. There have been many strides made in fire fighting technology in the past 100 years. At the beginning of the 20th century fire fighting equipment consisted of a steam powered piston pump pulled to the scene of a fire by a team of horses. Once the apparatus arrived on scene some type of water source had to be secured in order to effectively fight the fire. Modern day apparatus have evolved into high horsepower, high volume pumping machines that have tremendous advantages over earlier apparatus. However, one thing remains the same, once arriving on scene a water source still has to be established in order to properly extinguish the fire.
Since the majority of the United States is rural, many communities are not blessed with water systems and if they are it is often a weak system. Regardless of the reason for a feeble water supply the fire department is still charged with the responsibility of properly controlling fires within their community. This has caused most fire departments in rural America to depend on streams, ponds, lakes, rivers, etc. to provide water for fire fighting operations. The only problem is to get it from the source to the fire. In order to do this tanker shuttle operations are set up. A tanker shuttle consists of individual trucks, usually with large tanks, transporting water from point A to point B.
The flow rate of a tanker shuttle is dependent on two variables: dump time and fill time. The ISO formula travel time in a two mile shuttle is a constant 35 mph. In order to increase flow rates departments began to try to lower the fill and dump time. Lowering the dump rate was easily accomplished by placing 10" Newton gravity dumps on trucks. The problem is you can not dump what you have not first loaded. In order to decrease fill times, large quantities of manpower, hose, and at least one 1250 pumper must be committed to fill a tanker. As a rule of thumb the fill site pumper will only be operating at 70% efficiency. Combine that with the fact that most conventional tankers have only one 2.5" direct tank fill and you can see the difficulty in lowering the fill times. Now, examine the amount of manpower needed to fill the conventional tankers. You must have a fill site pump operator, at least one person per tanker (in a large shuttle) to connect the hoses, one person tending to portable pumps/drafting operations,a driver for each tanker and in a large shuttle more fill site pumpers to reduce wait time.
Next, let's examine the set up time for a fill site operation. A drafting operation has to be set up, whether it is directly from a water source or from a dump tank being supplied by portable pumps. In the event that portables are used, time must be taken to set them at the water source, stretch the lines, and get the dump tank set. Once the drafting operation is established fill lines must be laid out along with any adapters, appliances need to fill each tanker in the shuttle. This all has to be done while the attack crews are fighting the fire and needing the water the most: at the beinning. There is no doubt that after everything is setup, with enough manpower and trucks that an efficient shuttle can be established, it is usually well into the fire suppression effort that it is established. Most of the time our tankers do not meet the needed fire flow, but the fire burns down to the flow rate provided by our tanker shuttle before it is extinguished.
If there was a tanker that could cut the manpower required at the fill site by more than half, fill itself without a pumper, and double the flow rate of an ordinary tanker. Sounds impossible? If a tanker like that was available it would revolutionize the fire service. This tanker does exist in the form of a vacuum tanker. It works using a very simple, yet efficient system that requires little maintenance and is easy to operate. Vacuum was introduced into the fire service market in the mid-1980's by Firovac. Although vacuum had been used for years in the industrial field, it had never been engineered for the fire service until 1980.....................
As tested, a Firovac tanker can create and maintain flow rates close to the 250 gpm required by ISO by itself. It can self load at approximately 1000 gpm (usually more, but 1000gpm is a safe "average" number for Firovac) and self unload at 1250 gpm. It can load from available water sources (ponds, creeks, portable tanks etc.), from remote locations through 48' of hose or more (limited in a horizontal lay only by the hose carried: and vertical lifts of 28'.
Now remember that it was stated earlier that you will normally only get 70% efficiency from the fill site pumper. To prove the 70% efficiency, think about a normal fill site. The pumper usually has 2 or 3 fill lines running at the same time. As a basic rule figure 250-275 gpm per line. That is 750-825 gpm that the pumper is producing. Let's be generous and go with the highest number, 825 gpm/1250 gpm capacity x 100% = 70%. What about the other 30 percent, or 375 gpm that is being "wasted"? (Although this formula has never been published, if you refer to many articles previously written by various authors, and have observed many tanker shuttles, the figures hold true. Another rule of thumb derived from the same criteria used above is, each conventional tanker has the capacity of supplying 100 gpm ISO calculated sustained flow rates.)
This is how Firovac can enhance a conventional tanker shuttle. It wants that extra 30%. Set a dump tank at the fill site pumper and pump that extra 30% of unused capacity into it while the Firovac is gone. In approximately 5 minutes there will be enough water to fill a 2000 gallon tank. When the Firovac tanker returns, the dump tank is full and he can self fill from it. Most of the time, under actual fire conditions, a Firovac tanker will find a water source closer to the fire than the main fill site, that would be unattainable by conventional units. There have been instances such as this where a Firovac has delivered 3 to 4 loads of water before a conventional has returned with his first load.
How does vacuum work? Vacuum works simpsly by extracting air from a closed container which causes a negative pressure in the container, allowing water to replace it. This movement of air is caused by a vacuum pump. There are several types of vacuum pumps. They are rotary vane and piston or displacement pumps. The two most accepted rating stndards for vacuum pumps in the United States are CFM (cubic feet per minute), which is when the displacement capacity of the pump is measured in expanded air at 15 column inches of mercury. (Vacuum degrees are measured in inches of Mercury. As a vacuum pump reduces the atmospheric pressure on top of the calibrated column on Mercury, a measurement can be taken) The other accepted rating standard is SCFM (standard cubic feet per minute) when the displacement capacity of the pump is brought back to normal atmospheric pressure and measured at free air. Care should be taken to make certain that the comparison of pumps is done by the same rating standards. It should be done at 15" of Mercury so as to show the pumps efficiency at working levels of vacuum. In conjunction, it should be judged for its maximum vacuum capacity. If properly constructed, the vacuum pump will be just one part of a system that allows the vacuum tanker to meet its performance and safety requirements...................
.............In summary, if properly constructed, vacuum tankers can supply more water to a fire with less personnel and expense because:
1. They load from available water sources and do not have to return to town or a hydrant system to get water.
2. Set up time is quick and easy using minimal personnel.
3. Self load times are quick and easy.
4. Vacuum tankers can provide twice the water at the same distance, in the same time period as a conventional.
5. Vacuum tankers can utilize all the pumper's capacity.
6. It pressure unloads all water in the tank quickly, recognized as a "zero loss" tanker by ISO.
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Vacuum Vs Conventional
Jason Estep - Morrisvale VFD
Since mankind began fighting fire, through all the advances of technology, one thing has remained common in the fight: water. Rural departments around the country have always felt the need to conserve water on the fire ground due to the lack of sufficient water supplies. I understand these problems first hand with no hydrants in the fire district. One day our Chief picked up a magazine where a company claimed a tanker could fill itself (2000 gallons) in about a minute and a half. We were skeptical so we told him to "prove it". Once we watched the trucks operate we realized we found something that would help solve some of our problems. After receiving our trucks we realized immediate benefits from this. Now instead of committing the entire department to water supply operations, we now sent 2 people in the tanker to supply the fire ground with a sufficient water supply.
In 2002 at the Lincoln County Fire School we compared conventional tankers to vacuum tankers. We had 2 conventional tankers and a class A 1250 GPM pumper to fill them and 2 vacuum tankers. The only area we focused on was the fill time, since most tankers can dump at about the same rate and travel time is constant. We see the fill time as the only area that can be improved in order to maximize the flow rate of a shuttle.
Filling the conventional tankers in a efficient manner took quite an effort. One 1250 GPM pumper, two 2500 gallon dump tanks, two float pumps, 20' of 6" suction hose, a 5" hard suction used as a transfer tube between dump tanks and hose ranging from 2.5" to 5". Twelve people had to be committed to the water shuttle in order to make it run smoothly. Since the stream had a good water flow, but was very shallow we had to construct a makeshift dam in order to utilize the water. Two float pumps were set in the stream with one 3" line coming into three 2.5" to 5" hose manifold. The 5" hose was then run to the second dump tank. A siphon was connected to a piece of 5" hard suction and a 1.5" line from the pumper was connected to the siphon. This setup was used to transfer water from tank 2 to tank 1. Once both tanks were full we began to fill the conventional tankers with two 3" lines and quick connect fittings to save connection time. The pump operator was then instructed to pump the fill lines at no more than 100 PSI due to the manufacturer warranty on most tanks.
The two Firovac vacuum tankers go up stream from the conventionals and lay all 88' of 6" suction hose from the two trucks. No dam was constructed. Instead a Firovac low flow strainer was used in approximately 4" of water. A total of 3 people operated the vacuum shuttle, the 2 tanker drivers and a helper to connect and disconnect the suction hose. Each tanker filled in 2 minutes and 24 seconds (2000 gallons each through 88' of suction hose. That is a flow rate of over 1666 gallons per minute for the 2 tankers.
The advantages of using a Firovac tanker are obvious: superior fill and flow rates using less tankers, less people involved which means more people on the fire ground fighting the fire, less equipment involved which means cheaper maintenance and more equipment on the fire ground and the fill pumper now becomes the backup pumper on scene.
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